So Shilpa Shetty gets paid an obscene amount of money for appearing in a foreign reality tv show and immediately her stock rises. Suddenly Indians in India and the rest of the world sit up and take notice of someone, who in all fairness hasn’t really been the most successful or commercially viable actress Bollywood has ever had. And what’s the game show all about? Nothing much really… just a bunch of B grade British celebrities that no one has ever heard about, or cared about, living together under one roof. I confess that my interest too was piqued, I wanted to see what all the hype was about, what was it that she was going to do, was she going to be in the game or get voted out, and like millions of my brethren I also said, “Yeah baby! Let’s have you win!”
So every day like a nice, loyal Indian I logged on to youtube to check her status. Fast forward a few episodes, and what do we have? Shilpa sheds a few tears, and the disgusting r word slips out from behind closed doors. “Britain is racist and so are the Brits” we cry foul, and Indians in India and in Britain rise up in arms. There are protest marches, there is campaigning and slogan-eering, the biggest sponsor of the show backs out, the issue is debated in the British Parliament, Shilpa cries some more tears and we scream, screech and protest in anger, indignation, hatred because she has been discriminated against thanks to her color. But coolly she soon drops all charges and there is much fanfare and hugging. Everyone is back to being happy because the show gets the kind of publicity it could have only hoped for.
My reaction to the whole thing was WHOA. We have some audacity to accuse another country and another people of racism when by far, we are the most racist people that the earth has probably ever seen. You know where I have faced the maximum number of racist comments? Not in a foreign country but in India itself. In the various cities where I haven’t really "belonged". I am always the passionate Delhi-ite, and have always been, but how do I discount the number of times it’s been assumed that of course I cannot have a home in Delhi because I am a Bengali. So Calcutta is where I belong, or where I should belong. Does that mean I feel perfectly at home in Calcutta? No, simply because my accent gives away the fact that I haven’t had as much practice with Bangla as maybe I should have had. Or the assumption that I am not going to be able to eat fish with finesse because I am from the north. I am a Delhiite, how would I know which bone to pluck from where? Balls. Or say my initial months in Chandigarh, when understanding Punjabi was still a bit of a problem. Did the head of our department with seventy odd people under her, think that she was being politically incorrect every time she broke into Punjabi, which was often enough? No. Did friends and other colleagues think for an instant before lapsing in to Punjabi with each other as to how would Sayantani understand? No. The assumption was that now that you are here, if you want to survive baby, and be one of us, learn our language. Or go and suck an egg. As are the horror stories I hear from other people…those that have lived in one part of the country all their life and shifted to another, and have suddenly had to reconcile themselves to the fact that they are going to be friendless for a while simply because they do not know the majority’s language. Do we leave our language related prejudices behind when we leave the country and come to foreign shores? You would think!
Why the hell are we bothered about a person who by all standards is completely unaware of what it means to represent your country in a foreign land. First of all, wasn’t she supposed to go with at least some understanding of who she is and where she is from. And not with half baked theories that think that Feng Shui is “a Hindu thing”? Yes, I saw this one episode wherein Shetty asks one of the women to give up her bed so that she can sleep there with her feet facing a particular direction because it’s “a Feng Shui …a Hindu thing”. Does she even know where Feng Shui originated? And that there is really no way that Feng Shui can be “a Hindu thing”?
As if this kind of public display of intelligence was not enough, she needed to go a step further. So there was one episode wherein she sat bleaching her skin ostensibly to become fairer, and when asked what she was doing, she went about telling her housemates that fair skin is considered desirable in India. Yes, so it is. By stupid prejudiced people who assume that color has something to do with your worth as a human being. But you have a choice in this matter, you don’t have to give in to every kind of stupidity just because you are in the public eye. Or even if you have to, maybe you can refrain from it for a few days considering that you are in a “white” house where your attempt to become fair will appear to them “Look, what a wannabe! She is desperate to become White, she wants to be one of us. Why shouldn’t I make fun of someone who is not proud of who she is? And instead wants to become one of us?”
Wouldn’t YOU make fun of someone like that?
I know I would. I would make it a nightmare, a complete living hell.
42 comments:
That Indian people are rascist too is something that I hear quite often nowadays, especially from Indian friends staying abroad. Definitely, experiences that you are talking about are shared by many other Indians in different parts of our country. A lot need to be done to improve the situation in India. However, that does not mean we cannot protest against something that we believe to be racist or something incorrect. There is surely a bit of hype around this issue, may be due to political or business reasons. But I think if we see something abusive against people of my country, we have a right to protest. At the same time, we must look inside whether something equally wrong is happenning within India, among Indians.
Me First
*soooo long*
Whoa.. didn't know all of that. Frankly, I never bothered to look up for those videos. :-/
Now I know why she was even called for the show... Anyway, the
whole 'racist' thing looks well-built up. Suddenly she refuses and Goody apologises. All for TRPs. Oh and it has now become one of most complained-about shows in British history. DUMB. And then Indian media goes on debating about it with experts for three days!
Oh and man, didn't know about things in Delhi and stuff. I know for a fact that a Bengali is considered a glutton. :-/ Just weird disparity...why can't people be accepted the way they are?
And...would I make fun of that someone? YES.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat :-/
Arup had to post while I was leaving a comment! :@
You know what I think? It's a bit like the KBC madness in India. And sure, the so-called celebs are virtual unknowns outside their country (and that would include Ms Shetty). It's just a bit of masala and the effect of too much political correctness in this day and age. But hey, the strategy worked for her...she's poised to win! :)
As for Indians being racist...well, yes, they are...Most definitely.
And they're not the only ones.
I think most people are wary of outsiders and it's most observable when it comes to language. Don't you lapse into Hinglish phrases when in Delhi? If America had a major language other than English I'm sure most Americans, like your punjabi colleagues would speak it without bothering to fill you in, not your friends of course, but others would. As the outsider, you're the one that needs to make the effort if you want to be part of the crowd. And if you do that you might just find that most people are not that bad really. Ignorant and thoughtless perhaps in varying degrees, but not all bad.
Thought provoking post. Over the past few days as this issue's been splashed all over the front pages of newspapers, I've had this nagging feeling that we as a nation can't denounce any other nation for meting out "unequal treatment" to one of our people, since we treat our own people far worse.
There are quite a few reasons why this (over)reaction of ours stinks of hypocrisy.
One is the speed with which the Indian govt got involved in condemning the 'racist behaviour'. There have been bones of kids recovered from drains in Delhi's outskirts and Dalit families have been lynched to death in Kherlanji, but not one senior Cabinet Minister showed similar alacrity in visiting these areas or condemning these incidents with the promise of quick legal action.
The second reason is what you've detailed in your post – how can we accuse anyone else of being prejudiced when we live in a nation that lives by prejudices? Comedy in Hindi cinema means making fun of Tamil accents or homosexuality or women or fat / short / physically challenged people. And yeah, we laugh back at 'goras' too in our movies & serials. (How different is 'gora' from Paki, really?)
As for how we live, there’s always been 'we' and 'they' – we differentiate on the basis of region, religion, caste, class, race, gender. Who are we to protest against something some unknown (to Indians) woman said to Shilpa Shetty when in our country Dalits aren't allowed to enter temples, people are killed in the name of religion and family planning is equivalent to female foeticide for many of us?
Arup says: that we Indians are racist ourselves shouldn't mean that we can't protest against someone else. I agree. But let's not make it seem, by the intensity & vehemence of our response, that Shilpa Shetty suffering verbal jibes is such a big humiliation for "all Indians in general" (letters to the editor), because there are a million other things that should shame us, as a nation, far far more.
There's no doubt that Shilpa Shetty has not acted as one of the most sensible people who could 'represent the country' if that's what she wanted to do. I didn't know about the incidents that you've mentioned. But I read somewhere that during her initial days there, she was narrating tales about her 'popularity' in India. If they don't know you, they don't care about your popularity. And she cleared all doubts when at the end of it all she denied everything.
Again,there is no doubt that India and Britain have a lot of racism within their borders. But for that matter, it happens in almost the entire world. It is made out to be a big issue when it happens on an international level whereas, when something like what you experienced happens, nobody cares. Nobody cares also because you are no celebrity.
We, as Indians, have a habit of over-reacting to things. Be it regional, religious, communal or whatever kind of issues. And this case was no exception.
I agree with what Amiya says about the political conditions. And it is extremely saddening.
At the end of the day, I think this was all about money - for the participants of the show, the producers and consequently for the media.
Everyone is racist to some extent! I am sure Shilpa Shetty .. and in the this idiotic game show.. all she wanted was attention and she slyly and tastelessly played the R card!! I feel stupid coz as an Inidan we supported her foul play and cheated that after all this she walks out getting all she needed.. money, popularity (which was almost dead!) and a nice fat market price!!
Oh common Sayantani! Its not as bad as ur post's making it to be. I've been following the show since day one.
The "feng shui thing" phrase she used as to make them understand what she actually means, as "Vastu Shastra" , u bet, they wud never have understood.
Also she was bleaching her facial hair, I think most of the ppl round the world do it, its not only about India. Come to think of it- Facial hair DO look ugly. Its not about trying to look "White". Its about trying to look ur best.
And reagarding racism in India, I have travelled all over the world, its EVERYWHERE, just the intensity can be more or less. I live in Germany, ppl here discriminate amongst themselves, they r divided on the basis of states, regions, north, south, east or west. India is no different. Its just that its too big to be missed from ppl's notice. And lets face it- language connects. I came to Germany not knowing the language AT ALL. And beleive me , the first year, I spent as a physically challenged. Ppl dont trust u if u dont speak their language, doesnt matter if u have a common language(english in my case) between u. You'll get an answer quicker if u asked the question in German. Im not complaining. Its human nature. even I connect better with ppl from my city, its so natural, as then we have so many common things to share.
However, even if we agree of all what u have written here, even then, this does in NO WAY justify the treatment Shilpa got in the BB house.
I think we Indians , just to sound a little "different" or more intellectual, refuse to be reasonable. We are trying to sound different from what all the world is saying. Whole of the UK in one voice, rejected this bullying and racial behavior against Shilpa. Why do we want to find something else out of it?
OK, Lets suppose-
-Shilpa is not a popular actress, ok lets say shes not even an actress, shes a nobody, just an indian girl.
-She is playing a very intelligent game there.
-She is dumb, this, that, whatever you like.
BUT even then, does she, or rather did she deserve all that sh*t?- NO. In no way can a person deserve to be called F*ING LIAR, F*ING FAKE, a DOG, BITCH, PAKI(which mind u is a BIG abuse in the UK), belonging to slums, thin because all indians eat with hands, she can smell her own shit,.... the list is quite long and it raises my blood pressure so i'll leave it there.
I am no Shilpa Shetty fan, and was really upset on her taking part in a 3rd grade show watched by 3rd grade ppl. But lets be fair here. The girl has kept her dignity and her calm, at the time, when most of us wud have completely lost it. I wouldve. I must say I am quite impressed and so is 82% of the UK.
Iram
why waste ur time and energy on a dumb show and a dumb actress.......we indians are the biggest hypocrites of the world........so why whine and cry over it....
I have not watched big brother for I am not interested in looking at people I don't know zilch about! I heard and read the news for it was a bit amusing, still did not feel outraged at the woman shouting abuses at Shilpa Shetty. It was another stupid show and well...I thought it was much hue and cry about nothing!
And then your comment stating India is racist to the brim...Please Sayan...its not right to categorise. I tend to disagree. In call centres I have seen with my own eyes and felt the total harmony educated Indians live in. So I can go shouting that Indians are friendly people. Language and culture differs in India...that is bound to happen! Its one of the oldest countries of the world....
Why frown and shout and scream? Why try and reason out what is right and what is wrong? Why not take it at face value and be happy? Why scream about Indiand and Britishers and so on and so forth...its not important really!
and deepak....please...that was a totally unwanted comment!!! Indians are hypocrites? So is it alright to state that you know each and every Indian by name and face and know them for sure to be hypocrites?
Don't cry out INDIANS!!!! For I bet there are many Indians who are not hypocrites!!!
For Rs. 30000000/- (amount reportedly paid to Shilpa Shetty for appearing in Big Brother), one should be able to handle almost anything verbal! Better still, make a public issue out of it... it will bring more money.
She needed the publicity! Which was the last Shilpa Shetty movie that was a hit?
@kanu
when i said we indians......i said in general, just like if we are shouting brits are doesnt mean everyone is and i guess u need to travel across india to see a little more of how much of racist we are ..............our whole society is based on caste system, so much so that the whole elections in certain states are decided on the basis of that........out in the corporate life where everything is done after thinking twice by most of the people, u wud hardly notice it.....put the same person in the place where he/she believes that they are natural self and no one is noticing them, u will see the change.......
Its my general observation that religion breeds racism, and it might not be true in all cases. But religion and common sense being opposite faces of the same gold coin , it is but obvious that liberals , athetiests and self fashioned believers tend to be more open to the idea , that there do exist people in this world unlike themselves.
While it has also been my observation that religion also breeds in the minds of the insecure, my hypothesis in the beforementioned paragraph is strenghtened to the fact that insecurity develops intolerance which is a precursor to racism.So is another close cousin , namely arrogance, which i might daresay has more to do with geneology but is known to be mild or non-existent in the liberals, atheist and self fashioned believers that i mentioned above than the other side to the fabled gold coin.
People we call hicks in United Statues classify excellenty in this catagory ..so do the myriad of upper and middle class castes and creeds in India.At the same time i wouldn't want to do injustice to the many other nations of this world who would so willinglyfully fit in the mould of this racist sculpture we call earth.
So i shift to Mumbai where in the office they speak in Gujrati, at home Nepalese is what the maid, Amrita and her sister speak in the rest of mumbai seems to be speaking marathi .. Dude Punjabi would be a cake walk..
But i agree with you we need to look at our selves before accusing others of being racist
I dont know whether I can post an outside link here , but I would like y'll to read this--
http://www.rediff.com/movies/2007/jan/22shilpa.htm
Iram
I am so glad you wrote this blog...it was exactly what I was thinking while watching clips of the show and reading the outrageous remarks made in response to the show! As an Indian who was born and raised in American I can tell you firsthand the racism that is rampant in our community. And I agree that just because we are racist it doesn't mean that we cannot cry foul when others degrade us...but in the case of this show, there was no racist degrading going on at all. A poor example of Indian culture was placed in a fishbowl setting along with poor examples of the British society. Crying on the shoulders of castmates and crying racism is driving the ratings of the show and we Indians are forgetting our own racist remarks...I can point out a few that Shilpa made herself! Let's take a breather and re-examine the situation and not be such puppets to media hype!!!
And, one more thing, Indians are racist, true; however, there are not very many cultures or societies in the world that are not racist or prejudiced in some form or another. I have faced racism from Americans as well. The thing that irks me is that Indians are even prejudiced with their own!! No wonder it becomes so easy to divide and conquer!!
As a closing note, so that there are not misjudgements about where the loyalty resides: I love my India!! That's why I want her to be better!!
are she is not even worth a word ..
i don know what to say about her but ..that was funny ..after generating so much spark ..shaking parliment ..involving minster ...n result ..crap
I would make fun of someone like that.
Indians can really be worse than Whites when it comes to discrimination against Blacks.Dalits have faced unique discrimination in our country and there is still such discrimination.
@ deepak
I am not for once stating India is not a racist country...nor did I ever venture to state that India does not have hypocrits. I bet we can safely boast of the highest number of hypocrits...and that has a contribution from the ever increasing population as well! The only thing I wanted to say is that make a change, differ from the rest. Racism Exists in glaring proportions in India...I admit that I have also, on occasions descriminated on the basis of the race, knowingly or unknowingly winced on shaking hands with a muslim and called someone with disrespect. I admit there have been days when I hated Bongs! I used to literally think they were sickingly stupid!
Now...I am wiser. I have amazing Begali friends, one of my best buddy is half bong! My two very respected teachers are bengalis!
My point was Deepak, yes we are hypocrits, yes we are racist. But then there are people who are not. When you club people like that and say Indians with such disrespect I am sorry but I dont agree. If you can not be proud of being an Indian...some people are. Try and respect them!
I throughly enjoyed your post.
Thanks
opps, thoroughly
@kanu
u missed the first line of the ans....if u will read that i said my sentence was said in general and just cuz i said that indians are racist in general doesnt mean i am not proud of my country.......i am very much proud but i also admit the fallacies we have as a nation :)
relax.....i got ur point and i m sure u got mine too....... :)
@ Arup
Fair enough. Although the economic reasons behind this stunt, as I will choose to call it, are well grounded enough.
@ Rohit
I can only imagine the circus that must have descended on every news channel in India. Although I do confess, the inability to see them, does make me miss them a lot.
@ Etincelle
Oh I agree with you completely. Racism exists in some degree, some extent everywhere. Which is why I also think that everyone needs to be the "outsider" at least once in their lifetime. There is nothing more humbling that that.
@ Amiya
Couldn't agree with you more. And the only thing I would argue about is although I agree with you about how our movies make fun of everything that's not tall and fair, I cannot help but think that they do a lot of social good as well. One can subvert your argument to look at the positives of Hindi cinema as a socially binding agent.
@ Richa
So Shilpa told everyone about her popularity? Wow...can you dig that up for me. Would make for some interesting reading.
And your point about celebrities getting all this extra hype and attention because they are celebrities is true. Why else would we have cared this much?
@ Manasi
You bet. Her market price must have really shot up after this, right?
@ Iram
Forgive me, but as a student and now, teacher of history...to me it's disgusting that something like Feng Shui should be called "Hindu". In my world, there is no forgiveness for this kind of ignorance.
Shilpa was bleaching her hair because she wanted to be fair, as in white. What else could she have meant with the explanation that fair skin is coveted in India?
When did I say that there is no racism in other parts of the world? I may not have traveled everywhere, but I know enough of my country and its people, both within and outside it, to know for sure that we are racist to a phenomenal degree because we differentiate within our own so much.
And my post was not a reaction to wanting to sound intellectual or different. My stand was just that, "We should not have the audacity to point fingers at someone else before looking within ourselves first."
And as far as Shilpa is concerned, if you think she was her dignified best...I don't know what to say. I confess I haven't followed the episodes the way you have so it would be unfair to debate with you on that. But breaking down in front of a live audience every now and then is, according to me, undignified. It's a weak, pity seeking move. It is one that says, "I am a damsel in distress, help me someone."
@ Deepak
I agree about the hypocrisy bit to a great extent. I thought you would share some of your Chennai experiences with us here.
@ Kanu
If I want to scream, shout, cry, rave, rant, abuse, derogate from my blog, I should be allowed to. I have every reason and right to after all.
We are incredibly friendly too, there is no denying that. Just as racism too is an undeniable aspect of our lives. And educated Indians live in total harmony? Have you heard of something called Godhra my friend?
And Indians are not hypocrites? Since when? Dont judge the country based on perhaps a section of the population that you are familiar with.
@ Subhadip
So many zeroes she got paid...makes me want to sit somewhere and shed some tears and make money.
Her last big hit? Wasn't it Dus? Released in 2005?
@ Shardul
Religion breeds in the minds of the insecure is a line of argument that I would be convinced about. But just to argue for the sake of picking an argument with you, are you saying the foundation stone of all world religions is insecurity? Are you completely discounting the role of personal quest for answers?
@ Vir
Yes, we need to look at ourselves...specially considering the group that decided "Bong" was an acceptable thing to call me. Not that I minded. :) It was one of the first icebreakers.
@ Iram
Saw the link. Thanks. And I am trying to look at it from your point of view too.
@ Poetica
Lovely, thought provoking comment.
Which part of the US are you from?
What I found most intriguing is that you are saying that Shilpa too made some racist comments. Which ones can you remember?
Your closing lines are beautiful.
Thank you for stopping by.
@ Chitrangada
You bet! Itna tamasha aur end result kuchh bhi nahin. Except more money and TRPs of course.
@ Butterfly
You are right. Some of the best writing on Dalits in India are by Gail Omvedt. See if your school library has any book by her.
@ Kanu
Sorry to butt in to your argument with Deepak but I think nothing Deepak has said so far indicates that he is not proud to be an Indian. It merely suggests that he has a critical eye, and an understanding of the country and people based on his travel experiences around the country.
@ Kip
Hey dude! Thanks.
no there are two ways of looking at it in that situation before you we had a mallu, tambi, jat, sardar etc also there was a bong already so it was just a add on to that ..
it just depends i may use the word bong like i use sardar... it is like dude but with a twist. Depends how you take it when i call you by that .. if you take it badly then it is racist at least from this point..
I may have confused my self too but my mind is muddled while i am trying to close this issue... Fashion will be the death of me
@ Shardul
Religion breeds in the minds of the insecure is a line of argument that I would be convinced about. But just to argue for the sake of picking an argument with you, are you saying the foundation stone of all world religions is insecurity? Are you completely discounting the role of personal quest for answers?
I think you hit the jackpot there...the foundation stone of most world religions is insecurity. As far as personal quest for answers goes, religion tries to handle those answers in a very haphazard way, occasionally using science but most often depending on the fantasies and beliefs of one man (who more often than not ,they call God or the messenger thereof .).
Infact personal quest for answers was never a prime motive in the foundations of religion.
In my previous post I used a word, Self fashioned believer.You don't have to believe in religion to believe in God. These are people who are neither atheists nor radicals. I would go so far as to say , their religion is common sense. So simple yet so difficult to achieve. They take the best of both worlds. Least likely i would say to be "racists".
I've been all over the US...so I'm not tied to one region...currently I am in the southwestern desert.
I think if we are going to call the comments by Ms. Shetty's counterparts racist we also need to look into the comments made about "all Brits being like" the offending party. There was also a comment made about the offender being the best example of the society in U.K. I wonder why they didn't cry foul to those comments. I, for one, would not want my entire society to be compared to one foul mouthed 15 minutes of famer!
@ Vir
I know you meant no offence. And therefore none was taken, although my brain did register it because before that I had never been addressed like that. At the same time, I would ask you to keep this point in mind for the future. Because who knows the other Bongs (or other ethnic identities) you meet in your life might not be as thick-skinned a Punju that I am?
:D
@ Shardul
Beg to differ completely. Insecurity according to me can only be part of the reason for the search and establishment of religions. There is the aspect of spiritual quest that I will acknowledge although I might not embark on it ever myself. But then again, spiritual quest may mean different things to different people. To me, following a dream, and coming for a degree in creative writing has been the biggest spiritual quest of my life.
"Infact personal quest for answers was never a prime motive in the foundations of religion."
That's loaded dude...and I could give you way too many examples to prove you wrong. Let's start with a single name for the time being. Buddha.
@ Poetica
You've been all over the US? That must have been wonderful!
And I agree with your last point completely. One person cannot be representative of everyone in the community.
Woodsmoke Said:
"Infact personal quest for answers was never a prime motive in the foundations of religion."
That's loaded dude...and I could give you way too many examples to prove you wrong. Let's start with a single name for the time being. Buddha.
Shardul said in his previous post:
As far as personal quest for answers goes, religion tries to handle those answers in a very haphazard way, occasionally using science but most often depending on the fantasies and beliefs of one man (who more often than not ,they call God or the messenger thereof .).
Shardul says in this post:
Quote: And that includes Buddha : Unquote.
Also ,Buddha didn't invent Buddhism....his followers did!. He only wanted to enlighten people . His followers gave his teachings, the shape of religion.
lol my my do i look that stupid ...
ok dont answer that and i dont care for the word Punju Sardaar is much cooler... Surdie
@ Shardul
Dude, some serious heavy duty discussion next weekend over breakfast in on the agenda.
@ Vir
I agree Surdie is cooler. :) I was never sure which amused me more..."Surdie" or "Bitch".
Where is Dhundia btw?
To be rubbing hands in anticipation :)
bitch and surdie go hand in had surdie you are a bitch see .. Himanshu is in chandi in Dell
@ Shardul
:D you bet!
@ Vir
And does he blog?
i guess i am probably too late for commenting on this post (actually i did try earlier but er... as usual my internet connection played bewafa!) - i am not fond of reality shows per se (conveniently forgetting that i enjoyed nach baliye and i love donald trump's "you are fired!" in the apprentice!)
seeing that silly-poo (that's what my sister "fondly" calls her since they have the ‘mis’fortune of sharing the same birthday!!) won abt 4 million pounds plus i am guessing, tons of endorsements and appearances that will net her some more- i cant but, albeit grudgingly, admire her!!
so what if she's apparently silly, stupid, conceited etc etc she did have the brains to keep going and going even when it got tough (i know HOW MUCH even verbal abuse can hurt - and i got sentimental over ppl on a phone call - so i can imagine what hearing stuff like that up front can do to yr morale) and no one – I repeat no one – deserves to called names like she was – everybody irrespective of color, creed or IQ – deserves some amount of respect .
and she not get what she went out there for?? fame, money and maybe a fair bit of controversy to keep the interest alive. she had a fledgling acting career and not too much else to write home about - but look at her now!! success is a relative issue and so is fame - some parts of the world who wouldnt care a hoot abt the 900 cinematic thrills that are churned out annually by bollywood now take an interest in "up bihar lutne" et al... she isnt my ideal of the kind of representation that india should receive abroad - but at least she's there- right here, right now!
@ Keka
Amen to Shilpa's representation after all...we are in the news, racism is under attack, all is right with the world.
yeah I can relate to that. inspte of being a north indian and a delhite myslef, i too faced it during my master's days, sadly in north india itself.
I ws studyig in gzb and just a few kms from delhi made a huge lot of diff in ppl's mind sets. am proud being a delhite..thats what defines us the best..we relate the most to this place!
@ Suru
Really? Between Ghaziabad and Delhi there were differences? Care to talk about that some more?
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